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14 years 1 month ago #22943 by avneet
starting on rituxin was created by avneet
hi
first i would like to share my history
date count comments
12/23/2010 20k hospitalised
12/26/2010 60k released on 90 mg pred
Jun-11 200k plus predinisone tapered and done after
weekly monitoring of counts
feb 1st 2012 2k hospitalised
feb 5th 2012 65k released on 60 mg pred
after 4 IVIG doses and a couple of platlet infusions
feb 8th 233 k pred tapered to 50 mg
17-Feb 73k doctors suggests IVIG
FEB 22ND 79K IVIG
FEB 24TH 83K NO TREATMENT
MAR 1ST 2K hospitalised IN A DIFF HOSPTAL
MAR5TH 74K released on 50 mg pred
after 1 dose of WINRHO and 4 rounds of dexadron
MAR8TH 273K still on 50 mg pred

in short im on a 270 k count after whinrho and the doctor suggests taking rituxin treatment and he feels that the count night drop again when the winrho effect wears off
just like what happened last month with IVIG
IM A LITTLE ANXIOUS AND SCARED . Please share if anyone has any similiar experience and
also please share your thoughts
thanks
Avneet

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14 years 1 month ago #22959 by Sandi
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Avneet - you've already had IVIG. Rituxan is another infusion like that. Most people have no problems and find the treatment uneventful. I slept through mine due to the pre-meds. Side effects are rare.

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14 years 1 month ago #22969 by pamptrp
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Hello! I must say, reading your post gave me chills as we are on the same boat!

Here's mine.

Dec.2010 hospitalized with 20k platelet. During hospitalization, I was given IVIG and IV steroids. Platelet went up from 20 to 30 to 80 (after IVIG- given 24 hours IV). I was released from the hospital after a week with about 100k platelet. I was on oral steroids after that for about a week or two (couldn't remember) and the results were favorable.

For 5 years I had remission. Never was hospitalized again and never got ill (except for minor conditions like flu, colds).. until last Feb. 28.

Feb 28. I noticed the classic signs: petichae, bruising, clots on mouth. No pain though or any discomfort. I was working, I was walking, I was driving, I was OK. I went to my MD that afternoon and had blood work done as I know I am having recurrence of ITP.

Feb 29. Doctor called me and said "Your platelet is dangerously low". Platelet was only 1000. I was admitted to ER and was given 2 platelet transfusions and I was on 40 MG dexamethasone for 4 days. I was d/c with a platelet of 45k. And no more steroids taken. I was doubting being off to dexamethasone that soon, but I know the MD prolly knows what he's doing.

March 6. Follow up with MD and platelet was 80k. Thank God. Still, no MDs prescribed except for omeprazole (for stomach upset).

March 7. I noticed streaks of blood every time I blow my nose. I also noted hematuria, only once though. Thank God.

March 8. Went to primary MD and bloodwork done. Platelet was 35k.

March 9 (today). Went to Hematologist. Platelet was 25k. He put me back on Dexamethasone 40 mg for 4 days. On Tuesday, we will meet again. He discussed the possibility of receiving Rituxin. He explained that it functions to decrease the antibody production of the antibodies that attack the platelets. It is a series of 4 doses. Infusions lasts for 2-4 hours, and given on 1 week increments. Minimal side effects. On first treeatment, some patients experience chills but meds can be given for that.

So for now, I am hanging here. Hoping and praying that the platelets will go UP.

The question I have in mind is, how come we consider Rituxin already? Can my MD put me on steroids first like what you did? You were on for quite a while, and I was only on for 4 DAYS? Isn't that something?

Thanks for taking time to read my post. I wish you well and keep us updated.

God is good.

Pam

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14 years 1 month ago #22981 by Sandi
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Pam:

We're talking about two different steroids. Prednisone and Decadron (Dex). Prednisone is given for a longer period of time....weeks or months. Decadron is given for four days only. It is a much stronger steroid than Prednisone.

You could try Prednisone if you wanted to, but you'd have to discuss that with your doctor.
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14 years 1 month ago #23040 by BigDave
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Avneet - your experience is a little similar to mine.

7k and hospitalized
IVIG and Pred counts up to 267k
one month later counts at 18k and re-hospitalized
fired my hemo because he took offense to me challenging his recommendation of immediate splenectomy
new hemo
WinRho and Pred - counts climb to 262k
Counts begin steady decline until a month and a half later they reach 26k - my new hemo and I had mutually agreed to only treat below 30k so we go for another dose of WinRho
Counts jump to 264k
Once again they begin a steady decline yet slower this time.. three months later I am at 31k.. a week later I am at 53k.. another week later its 124k!

I was in remission for 4 years with counts ranging between about 80 - 160k until recently when I had a relapse. Right now I am on just Pred with a slow taper waiting to see what happens. I had a pretty strong response to Pred this time whereas last time it did absolutely no good.


My personal thoughts are patience... my family is freaked out.. the doctor wants to hit it with the big guns and I think I want to give it some time.. the first time around I was doing battle for 6 months and then it held.. who knows about this time? The way I am leaning is that if it drops to below 30k as I am tapering off of Pred then I will explore Rituxan next.. whatever gets me the best chance at a remission without sacrificing my spleen. Actually my doctor said if I drop below 30k I might be a candidate for a new study on subcutaneous Rituxan as opposed to infusions which is interesting.

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14 years 1 month ago #23095 by jessmeyer
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I wanted to add in mine two cents, because I had a really positive experience with Rituxin.

I was diagnosed & hospitalized just over seven months ago with a count of less than 3,000. The first course of treatment was (the much dreaded, for me) Prednisone. Prednisone initially raised my counts to be between 20 - 50k, which allowed me to be released from the hospital. However, when I started to taper (reducing my dosage by 20 mg, every other day), my counts plummeted again -- which resulted in me getting an IVIG and starting up on Dexamethasone (a 4 day on, 10 day off pulse). I slowly, slowly started to taper off of Prednisone while on the Dex, after we determined the Prenisone was not effective for me. The Dex was an interesting one. It raised my counts significantly for the few days following the pulse, but in the few days before my next pulse, my counts would significantly drop. In the meantime, the side effects of being on two steroids at very high doses was wreaking havoc on my body (including a staph infection in my ankle which resulted in a wound that took over five months to heal -- and by heal, I mean not be a gaping hole on my leg).

At the end of December, my counts once again plummeted from over 200k to under 20k in a matter of days, and my Hemo decided we were going to move on to a new course of treatment. I got the Splenectomy talk, which isn't something I am necessarily opposed to, but I am of the frame of mind that I want to try pretty much any other treatment I can before doing surgery. I was presented with a few other options, which I can not remember at the moment, but I ultimately decided on the Rituxin.

It was a bit scary to think about taking a chemotherapy drug, but the actual process was very low key. I did have a reaction to the drug during the first treatment (incredibly ichy scalp and swelling of the throat were what I noticed before I was pumped full of allergy meds), but it wasn't a very big deal. Due to the Benadryl they give you prior to the infusion, to stave off potential reactions, you pretty much sleep the entire time. My first infusion took almost 10 hours -- the reaction caused me to have to stop the infusion for over an hour to ensure that the allergy meds had kicked in and my vitals were normal -- and my subsequent infusions took about 6 - 8 hours. However, if you don't experience a reaction, it is my understanding that the process can be speed up in your second - fourth visit, so you wouldn't need to spend hours upon hours upon hours in the infusion center.

I never felt sick due to the Rituxin, but I definitely experienced hair loss. Thankfully, I have a LOT of hair -- so I still have a lot. I'm no where near balding. But, when I brush my hair out post-shower, I am still noticing a lot of strands coming out -- about half a brushfull each time.

It has now been a month and a half (exactly on Friday) since my last Rituxin infusion, and while it took about a week after the last infusion for the effects to truly take place, I have not had a platelet count lower than 250k. Prior to Rituxin, I might have reached 250k once or twice -- on the days immediately after a Dex pulse, but I would never maintain that count. Now, I'm maintain that count and higher counts -- even on the last day before starting my next Dex pulse (yes, I'm still on Dex -- although I'm tapering down).

I am hesitantly considering myself to be in remission, or moving in that direction, and I consider Rituxin to be what caused it. Therefore, I am a big supporter of trying out this option. This is also due to the fact that I had a very negative experience with steroids (Prednisone and Dexamethasone). I used to joke that once I got diagnosed with ITP, my luck turned on me. Prior to the ITP, I was naturally a strangely lucky person -- winning lots of random things. Once I was diagnosed with ITP, it seemed like I became inflicted with every potential steroid side effect a person could have. For me, it wasn't a matter of "if," it was a matter of "when." That, in addition to the fact that neither steroid was able to maintain me on a decent platelet count, left me feeling very unsatisfied with that form of treatment.

Each person has to make the decision for themselves, though. One of the most important things I have been learning, upon being diagnosed, is to advocate for myself. Reading these boards has made me realize, even more, how important that is. Your Hemo can offer you advice, but with a disease like ITP, where there is no one cure that works for everyone, a patient really needs to make the decision that is going to be the best option for them.

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14 years 1 month ago #23108 by Sandi
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Jess:

I'm glad Rituxan went so well for you. It's not really a chemotherapy though; it is considered to be immunotherapy because it doesn't target any cells but B cells and T cells.

It also usually doesn't cause hair loss, but steroids do when taken enough and it sure seems like you had plenty of them!

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14 years 1 month ago #23330 by avneet
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hi guys
thanks for the taking the time out for replying
just wanted to update you all
i have already had 2 doses of rituxin
and am on 125 k count now and knock on wood are stable
also i have a question did anyone have headaches
and migrating pains all around the body like stinging chest and back pains
or knees and elbows
i doubt that could be the decadron reaction which im on 4 mg every other day( was on 4 mg daily before and 50mg of pred daily before that)
any advise is helpful

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14 years 1 month ago #23333 by Sandi
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Avneet - those do sound more like steroid side effects than Rituxan. When you stop taking or taper any steroid, the body can have weird pains like that.

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14 years 1 week ago #23929 by jwhitt
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Hi, I am new to this discussion group. Recently diagnosed with ITP and Myeloma. My platelet count is up and down. Even after receiving platelets sometimes see not much change. I have had 2 treatments if rituxin. I feel very weak and no energy. Any information or suggestions welcome,
jwhitt

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14 years 1 week ago #23939 by brittany
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jwitt... rituxan had me feeling off for +1week. I had headache and extremely tired. Just had to wait for the side effects to pass. Tho treatment did not work for me, so some of the fatigue ay have been from my platelets being so low. who knows lol
good luck!

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