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Melatonin and ITP?

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13 years 9 months ago #25973 by Kim081
Melatonin and ITP? was created by Kim081
Hello all,

Ok I need something to be able to get rest at night, I'm up all hours of the night. I fall asleep for a few hours, then I'm up pacing and walking all over the house. Eventually I lay back down and if I'm lucky I fall back asleep for a few hours before I wake up again. This is every night. I have to say though my house has never been so clean. I thought about taking Melatonin to see if this helps? The only thing I know not to take is asprin, ibuprofen, aleve, advil, I think they call these NSAIDS? I've tried the warm milk, several of the teas, nothing seems to help. Is there anything else they we should not take? Thanks for your help.

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13 years 9 months ago #25974 by Christine
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Are you on any medication that may cause this? Prednisone is notorious for sleeplessness and restlessness. I used to say I need to be on pred for a short spell to get my house sorted out!!!!!!!!!!!!! Christine :)

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13 years 9 months ago - 13 years 9 months ago #25976 by Kim081
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Hi Christine,
The only medication I am on is Benicar which is for high blood pressure. That is it. I've had issues with anxiety and thought I had that taken care of until I was diagnosed this February.
I really have had problems sleeping for a long time. I'm bound and determined to get this anxiety under control. My doctor prescribed Klonopin for anxiety (works wonders) and it does make me sleepy but I don't plan on using it as a sleep aid. If I'm freaking out YES!:lol:

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13 years 9 months ago #25977 by ddinap@aol.com
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hi. i just got diagnosed with ITP 7 months ago so i am relatively new to this. i have been taking melatonin to help me sleep since then. i take 3mg before bed and my hematologist does not have a problem with it. you can check with yours, but it does work for me and has not caused any other issues. i dont take it every night, but sometimes when they have to up my prednisone or i am so stressed about the ITP that i am too tense to sleep, i find it helps. i hope it helps for you!

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13 years 9 months ago #25980 by Kim081
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I'm going to try it. I hope it works. Thanks for the response.

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13 years 9 months ago #26301 by dbtkrieg
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One of my doctors told me that melatonin in high doses can possibly help with ITP, so I'd say it couldn't hurt. I took up to 10 mg of melatonin each night for a while. It helped me sleep but didn't do anything to my ITP. When my counts were in the normal range and I took that much melatonin I slept waaaay too long and was groggy the next day, so I'd say start with normal doses (1-3mg/ night I believe).

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13 years 9 months ago #26335 by Kim081
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I have read that melatonin is used when people cannot fall asleep, falling asleep isn't the problem, it's staying asleep that is. I wake up all hours of the night. I think I read somewhere that it makes you fall asleep faster but doesn't fix the waking up.To all those who have responded, are you experiencing insomnia and can't sleep or is it that you can fall asleep but can't stay asleep?

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13 years 9 months ago #26338 by benny
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Hi Kim081, I have no problem with falling asleep, but also wake up every night and have muscle cramps, usually up for about one and half hours. My Haematologist said take Magnesium purchased from any shopping centre.

I feel it helps. My wife has high blood pressure also, and takes med,s for it. She now takes Magnesium some nights, and feels it helps her.

Iam glad you asked this question as I did not realise so many people were dealing with this effect. Have not tried Melatonin.

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13 years 8 months ago #26365 by ddinap@aol.com
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i use melatonin 3mg and have the same problem. i can fall asleep easily, but if i wake up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom (or more likely when my 3 year old comes in to see me at 3am) it is hard to go back to sleep.

the bonus is that i found i do not wake up groggy the next morning with it, which does happen sometimes if i take a Tylenol PM instead.

ask if you can try Tylenol PM (or you can just buy the ingredient that helps you sleep that is in it on its own so you can avoid the Tylenol). i was taking that at one point too. it takes longer to get you to fall asleep (just take it earlier) but it works better for getting you back to sleep in the middle of the night.

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13 years 8 months ago - 13 years 8 months ago #26382 by april
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Here's an article that may help:
drlaurietutton.com/category/functional-medicine/page/2/

Can’t sleep? Turn the lights off earlier
Published April 25, 2012 | By Dr Laurie Tutton

Can’t fall asleep? You may need to turn the lights off earlier. Studies show exposure to light after dusk, particularly light from computer screens, iPads, iPhones, televisions, and other electronic items, significantly inhibits the production of melatonin, your body’s sleep hormone.

Insomnia is a national problem, affecting about 30 percent of Americans and fueling a $2 billion sleep medication industry. Although prescription sleep medications are common, they also come with troubling side effects and a four times higher risk of death.

While the natural sleep aid melatonin may be safer, it can disrupt your body’s delicate balance of hormones and create a dependency. Research shows it also stimulates inflammation, which could worsen autoimmune disorders, such as arthritis or Hashimoto’s hypothyroidism, in some people.

The best natural sleep aid may be to change your lighting after dusk. Although going light-free in the evening is too much to ask, you can boost melatonin production by reconfiguring the kind of light to which you expose yourself.

LED lights suppress melatonin
Although any kind of light can suppress melatonin, research shows the worst offender is light with blue wavelengths. LED bulbs, though hailed for their energy efficiency, are dominant in blue light and suppress melatonin five times more than orange-yellow light bulbs. One study showed that exposure to room light (compared to dim light) before bedtime shortened melatonin duration by about 90 minutes, and that exposure to light during usual sleep hours suppressed melatonin by greater than 50 percent.

Examples of light sources high in melatonin-suppressing blue light include:

LED light bulbs
Computer monitors
Laptop computers
iPads, iPhones and similar devices
Hand-held video games
Electronic gadgets
LED televisions
LED digital clocks
Melatonin helps prevent dementia, cancer, obesity, and autoimmune disease
Melatonin does more than deliver a good night’s sleep. Numerous studies have linked poor melatonin activity and a disrupted sleep-wake cycle with an increased risk of cancer, an increased risk of dementia and Alzheimer’s, more autoimmune flare-ups, obesity, and other health issues.

Creating a sleep-friendly environment to boost melatonin
A sleep-friendly solution is to configure your lighting so that it mimics the light of a fire, which is rich in red and yellow wavelengths. This could mean shutting off the overhead lights and using floor and table lamps with orange and yellow bulbs in the evening. Of course, it also means forgoing computer and television use, especially just before bedtime. It may sound drastic, but for the person with persistent insomnia, these changes can help.

Other ideas to simulate our pre-industrial light-dark cycles include:

Adjust your sleep schedule to more closely mimic the sun’s
Install Flux, a free download that reduces blue light emissions from your computer screen
Wear orange safety glasses at night
Check out the melatonin-friendly bulbs and glasses at Low Blue Lights
Enhance melatonin production during the night by blacking out your windows or wearing a sleep mask
Balance blood sugar—insulin resistance (high blood sugar) typically makes it harder to fall asleep, while hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) will have you jolting awake at 3 a.m., wide-eyed and anxious—when this happens, eating a little protein may help you fall back asleep.
Address chronic stress issues that may elevate the stress hormone cortisol and suppress melatonin during the night.
 

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